Podcast: Dr. Janet Hoffer's interview with Patricia DeYoung, PhD.

In Part 1, Dr. Janet Hoffer asks Dr. DeYoung:

~how her interest in shame developed

~to describe the difference between shame and what she calls "chronic shame"

~how her novel ideas about chronic shame came into focus

~what needs to happen between the therapist and client for therapy to be effective

Part 1 - Patrcia DeYoung

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In Part 2, Dr. Janet Hoffer asks Dr. DeYoung:

~what she is listening for when assessing shame in a client

~how she uses her countertransference to inform her work

~why chronic shame cannot be cured

~what characteristics a therapist needs to possess to work effectively with chronic shame

Part 2 - Patricia DeYoung

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